Ned Stark, Noble or Idiotic?


Ned Stark, Noble or Idiotic?
            Ned Stark, the beloved fan favorite character in Game of Thrones, is dead. Ned’s death has raised a lot of questions in the Game of Thrones community: is it smarter to be noble and a man of honor or to fight for your life by any means necessary? Should we teach our kids about honor and fairytales or about how the Game of Thrones world really works?
            I personally believe that Ned Stark is an idiot. Ned is an honorable man, no one can take that away from him, but that didn’t save his head. I believe that Ned’s actions from beginning to end got him killed.  I believe that the way he thinks has been implemented into Sansa. Sansa’s poor decision making comes from being raised by Ned and learning the ways from him.  
Sansa and her father Ned share many similarities that I believe are looked over because they are on different sides of the fandom. Ned is fan favorite and Sansa is easily one of the most hated characters. Is Sansa’s hatred right when Ned is doing the same thing but is loved? I think not, the people that hate on Sansa need to look a little closer at the decisions that both have made and realize the similarities between the two. On goodreads is it discussed how poor of a decision it was for Ned to go and tell Cerci about his knowledge of what happened between herself and Jamie. This is the definition of foolish. Ned had all the cards and choose to just tell everything to the person it was about.
            This decision is oddly like a decision that Sansa made shortly before. Ned told his daughters of his plan to send them back to Winterfell and Sansa being stuck in her fantasy world of marrying Joffery, she goes and tells Cersei of his plan and that decision is the beginning of the end for Ned. ASOIAF University discusses some similarities between these two characters, but the one that stuck out to me is discussing how both Ned and Sansa share a common trait of being naïve. Sansa’s come off as being a stupid teenager whereas Ned’s is looked at as being an honorable man and believing in the times of truth and honor. Ned and Sansa are one in the same.
            Ned was big fish at Winterfell, he could be honorable and teach honor and the fairy tales of how the world is supposed to work to his kids. Unfortunately, what was being taught was not how the world works. People don’t care about honor in Kings Landing. They care about power and being in control. They will kill or turn their backs on whoever they must. They will protect what they have or to get more than what they have.
            On Quora, Sansa is said to have been a story or in a fairytale. This is a true statement when you look at how she lived in Winterfell. Everything was a dream for her. She was under the impression that she would grow up and marry the prince and son of King Robert and one day be the queen. This idea quickly changed when she moved to King’s Landing and realized that Joffery isn’t who she thought. The point here is that Ned raised her to believe that her life would be perfect, and everything would workout the way that it was supposed to. He had her believing in all these “fairytales”, which shaped how she made her decisions once moving.
            Why would Ned teach Sansa all these false things if he is such an honorable man? That question is answered by understanding the fact that Ned is an idiot. Ned was under the impression that what he was teaching Sansa was correct. Ned was also living in his own fairytale. Ned believing the world would run the way its “supposed” to just because there are laws is ridiculous. He believed that Cersei would just leave King’s Landing after telling her that he knew about her and Jamie. This an example of Ned being a complete idiot. Ned was living by how the world is supposed to work. His failure to realize that the world is changing and being honest all the time isn’t how it works anymore is a reason that his head got chopped off.
            People’s hatred for Sansa comes from how they group her. People naturally place her in the same boat as Cat because of her lady like tendencies and they place Arya with Ned because of her warrior attitude. These are both wrong groupings as discussed on Thunks of Ice and Fire.
            Sansa is much more like her father. She shares his naive ways. She shares the foolishness to believe that you can trust anyone, espically Little Finger. She isn’t a great warrior like her father, but she shares more human characteristics than Arya does.
            Arya is a warrior inside and out. She has learned quickly how to kill and doesn’t mind having to do it if it means protecting herself. She is like Cat in the fact that she is smart and can see through people’s crap. She doesn’t take crap from anyone either including the Hound.
            Ned’s death was a tragic event for his family, his daughters that were there, and to the Game of Throne community. Ned’s death did have some good come out of it. Sansa has since learned from her foolish start. She no longer believes in fairytales or in happy endings. Sansa has learned how to “play the game”. I mean that she has learned how to lie and not let her true feelings or intentions leave her thoughts. One example of this is when she is eating dinner with Cersei and her other children and is asked about the dress that the daughter will wear at her wedding and she replies with that she will look beautiful instead of letting her true feelings out. Another example is when she is talking to Tyrian and he asks her if she still wanted to be with Joffery and she just replies with that she is loyal to her King. Sansa has learned when to be honest and who she can trust and cannot trust. Sansa has learned how to live.
            Sansa and Ned are the epidemy of similar. The two have managed to make the same mistakes and not learn from each other. If that doesn’t tell you that Ned is a damn fool and Sansa is apple that didn’t fall from the tree, then I don’t know what will.


Comments

  1. I understand what Tyler is saying about Sansa. I think that people hate Sansa because of how she is grouped in terms of gender and they don't really look at how smart and cunning she really is . Her father taught her how to play the system and use what she is given to succeed in the world that she was placed in and I think her father would be proud of that. So there is no reason for all the hate that she receives. As far as Ned goes, I think that he was kind of an idiot for not being smart and choosing his life over his honor.

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  2. Okay, but Ned isn't an idiot. I agree that him and Sansa are very similar, but I don't think either of them are idiots. Yes Ned made some "bad" decisions, and one deadly one, but this doesn't make him an idiot. People always go by what they believe in, even if it gets them killed. Ned was living and raising his kids from his experience of what is right. He's always, for the most part, been in Winterfell, so his actions in King's Landing would've had a different outcome if he was still in Winterfell. So, if all of this happened in Winterfell, and Ned wouldn't have been executed, would you still think of him as an idiot? Probably not. Ned is no idiot, but he is stuck in his naive ways of living through honor that work in Winterfell, but not in King's Landing.

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  3. let me start by just saying I don't agree with him being a idiot. I do agree however with him being foolish and that his honor did not save him his life. Although, Ned did have plenty of warning signs leading up to what caused his death which he completely ignored he still wasn't a flat out idiot. He had the right deck of cards he just had NO IDEA how to play his hand right. The death of Ned was a shock and I agree his daughter did learn from his foolish mistakes which I feel like helped her in the series a lot better. p.s that meme is funny

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  4. Ned is foolish, I have said that before because him being as powerful as he is, he should have known what he was doing. Especially when it came to approaching people that was just as powerful as him. Sansa on the other hand I feel is just a naïve 13-year-old girl who was just trying to start a family of her own, as she was to do. I don’t think anything that Sansa did was meant to harm others, especially her father. Although being around the Lannister’s she should have know how sneaky they were and how unpredictable Joffrey was. Both Ned and Sansa actions were questionable as Ned spoke about something, he had no business in and Sansa telling Cersei about her dad planning on bringing them back to Winterfell. They should have kept their mouths shut but in the end they didn’t. They were only trying to protect themselves and their families but that didn’t turn out so well, since Joffrey was involved.

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